Just how many Cantus are involved in this Scam?
A few weeks ago, my wife and I drove by the Cantu’s house and noticed that they were moving. We asked to speak with John and he wasn’t home so his wife and his brother spoke with us. They told us that they had “just found out” that John was possibly involved in possibly scamming people. We knew that Marissa was lying because she was involved in some of our investment deals and we have subsequently heard that she was directly involved in selling the fake investments to various other people. After speaking with these people, we found out that Al (John’s brother) flat out lied to us too that day. He has told other people in the past the he was actually scammed by his own brother for over $100,000.00, which was undoubtedly a lie. We also spoke with other people who indicated that Al has been aware of this for several years. In fact, when one of these victims lost his money in 2006, Al then told him that John had scammed him for over $100,000.00.
We’ve established now that Al is a liar. Now, we’re beginning to question how involved was he in all of these scams all along? We’re still trying to find out where the money is because John owns nothing and has nothing in his name. The question is does his brother have everyone’s money? Or, does Marissa’s family have it? The money has to be somewhere. We also found out that Al’s wife works for the IRS. We can’t help but wonder if she is involved as well in helping hide all of their ill begotten gains.
If anyone has any information regarding Al and his wife as well as additional confirmation of Marissa’s intricate involvement, please contact Dave Pasino and provide him with this information. If anyone has a chance in recouping our money, we need to find out where the money is.
We are also not sure where the Cantu’s have moved this time but are pretty sure they’re living with his brother, Al. If anyone can provide the address, please put this on the blog. There are several more civil lawsuits in the works and their address is needed
2/14/10
Orange Police Department and Foothill Sentry Thanks
I think we owe a big thank you to the Orange Police Department for following up on the accusations related to John and Marisa Cantu so quickly. It is my understanding that although John and Marissa have been perpetrating these con's for several years that the Detectives at Orange Police Department only became aware of the case in August 2009.
An article in the Foothills Sentry (Marjan Dunn) dated February 9th noted the Police raid on Cantu's home related to the Fraud Investigation. It's Ms. Dunn's articles that helped really start bringing the victims together and we appreciate her revisiting the situation. The point here, now, is to make as many as aware as possible so that John and Marisa are not able to continue conning people out of their hard earned money.
Where do we go from here?
I hope that as many victims as possible contact the District Attorney's Office to ask them what is being done on the prosecution side. The number of families that have been taken by these people and the money involved is ridiculous. Please take the time to drop a quick letter, make a phone call or actually stop by the DA's office to let them know your concerns.
It's time that some justice is given to these people. Both of them. I have detailed Marisa involvement on this blog as have several others. The same them has been repeated to those we have spoken with, they are in this together. She thinks she can claim innocence now, keep all the money they have stolen and just walk away. What a joke. She knows what was done, how it has affected the lives of others and is only concerned with her own skin. This woman is a real piece of work, her and her husband are cut from the same cloth.
An article in the Foothills Sentry (Marjan Dunn) dated February 9th noted the Police raid on Cantu's home related to the Fraud Investigation. It's Ms. Dunn's articles that helped really start bringing the victims together and we appreciate her revisiting the situation. The point here, now, is to make as many as aware as possible so that John and Marisa are not able to continue conning people out of their hard earned money.
Where do we go from here?
I hope that as many victims as possible contact the District Attorney's Office to ask them what is being done on the prosecution side. The number of families that have been taken by these people and the money involved is ridiculous. Please take the time to drop a quick letter, make a phone call or actually stop by the DA's office to let them know your concerns.
It's time that some justice is given to these people. Both of them. I have detailed Marisa involvement on this blog as have several others. The same them has been repeated to those we have spoken with, they are in this together. She thinks she can claim innocence now, keep all the money they have stolen and just walk away. What a joke. She knows what was done, how it has affected the lives of others and is only concerned with her own skin. This woman is a real piece of work, her and her husband are cut from the same cloth.
Header - Cantus on the Run again
Just by blind luck, we happened to drive by the Cantu house yesterday and noticed a moving van in front of their house. We asked if we could speak to Marisa because apparently, John is in the hospital. John Cantu told us from the very beginning that if anything happened to him, we needed to speak with Marissa because she knows everything about the investments and where our money is.
John's brother was with Marisa and told us that they JUST found out about John scamming people and that they had NO previous knowledge. This was odd because Marissa was always there when we gave John our investment money. He told us we needed to speak with the police and let them take care of things. An Orange County Sheriff appeared on the scene and told us that they were being evicted. We voiced our concerns that the Cantus might simply disappear because by our estimates, they have fleeced people out of almost $2 Million dollars. The officer assured us that if they indeed skip town that they would be found and brought to justice. We however are not so sure. If anyone has any information as to the current whereabouts of the Cantus, please post on this website so that people who want to serve them with civil paperwork can locate them.
I didn't know he was ripping people off!
1) Let's be real here, Marisa wants everyone to believe that she had no knowlwdge of her husbands actions. Marisa knew at least as far back as September 2009, that is when I couldn't get in touch with John and asked he about my money. She specifically told me that THEIR investments were coming in slower than expected.
2) John had no problem letting me and several others know that Marisa was aware of the deals and that we should contact her if we couldn't get in touch with him. She would arrange for settlement and let us know who his partners were.
3) Some of the suits that the Cantu's have lost go back several years and involve people that were considered good friends, the Cantu's even went so far as to go on joint vacations with those they would subsequently con.
4) Many thanks to those of you that are sharing additional information. I need to do as much reference checking as possible so that when we actually approach the DA's office about prosecuting this case we have as much readily available, verifiable information about his past cons as possible.
John's brother was with Marisa and told us that they JUST found out about John scamming people and that they had NO previous knowledge. This was odd because Marissa was always there when we gave John our investment money. He told us we needed to speak with the police and let them take care of things. An Orange County Sheriff appeared on the scene and told us that they were being evicted. We voiced our concerns that the Cantus might simply disappear because by our estimates, they have fleeced people out of almost $2 Million dollars. The officer assured us that if they indeed skip town that they would be found and brought to justice. We however are not so sure. If anyone has any information as to the current whereabouts of the Cantus, please post on this website so that people who want to serve them with civil paperwork can locate them.
I didn't know he was ripping people off!
1) Let's be real here, Marisa wants everyone to believe that she had no knowlwdge of her husbands actions. Marisa knew at least as far back as September 2009, that is when I couldn't get in touch with John and asked he about my money. She specifically told me that THEIR investments were coming in slower than expected.
2) John had no problem letting me and several others know that Marisa was aware of the deals and that we should contact her if we couldn't get in touch with him. She would arrange for settlement and let us know who his partners were.
3) Some of the suits that the Cantu's have lost go back several years and involve people that were considered good friends, the Cantu's even went so far as to go on joint vacations with those they would subsequently con.
4) Many thanks to those of you that are sharing additional information. I need to do as much reference checking as possible so that when we actually approach the DA's office about prosecuting this case we have as much readily available, verifiable information about his past cons as possible.
12/27/09
A message from John Cantu
This is an actual e-mail sent from John Cantu to my frineds that also have investments with him that supposedly were due in October:
I asked for a truce for 10 days...you said NO and continued your campaign of irreversible damage. And yet I have continued to work to get you your funds...I have never said I wouldn't get you your money, am working to get past the unacceptable delay and I have not participated in your vulgar, threatening text and email campaign...again you will get your funds asap despite whether you stop or not. The delay has caused you and yours heartache and worry and what you have done maliciously to me and my family can NOT be undone either...so I will continue to work to RESOLVE our issues asap no matter what you continue to do.
john
1) The problem with this is John did say he wasn't going to pay us. I was there when he said it. He specifically stated that he couldn't pay anyone if he was in jail and that we should not press the matter any further. It should be noted that he has not paid anyone a cent.
2) He and his wife are not working with anyone to get anything. He won't return calls or messages and olny answers if threatened. Marissa will simply promise to take your name and number and have her dear husband give you a call. It'll never happen, me and my widfe have both been there. They just want you out of the way as quickly as possible.
3) and probably the best laugh here is the comment about the irreversable damage done to his family. Let me fill you in, his children go to private elementary school. I have to tell mine that he either has to drop of of college for a year or get a full time job to pay for it because the Cantu's have stolen his college money.
4) I don't think John and Marissa have any clue what the term ASAP means. These debts have been over due for months. I mean what was promised as a six week investment has not been paid in over 16 weeks. Oh, he was off the mark by just a little bit there.
5) This simply shows that lack of compassion that John and Marissa have for the people they steal from. They are only worried about the accusations leveled against them and have no concerns about the hardships that they have created for others.
I asked for a truce for 10 days...you said NO and continued your campaign of irreversible damage. And yet I have continued to work to get you your funds...I have never said I wouldn't get you your money, am working to get past the unacceptable delay and I have not participated in your vulgar, threatening text and email campaign...again you will get your funds asap despite whether you stop or not. The delay has caused you and yours heartache and worry and what you have done maliciously to me and my family can NOT be undone either...so I will continue to work to RESOLVE our issues asap no matter what you continue to do.
john
1) The problem with this is John did say he wasn't going to pay us. I was there when he said it. He specifically stated that he couldn't pay anyone if he was in jail and that we should not press the matter any further. It should be noted that he has not paid anyone a cent.
2) He and his wife are not working with anyone to get anything. He won't return calls or messages and olny answers if threatened. Marissa will simply promise to take your name and number and have her dear husband give you a call. It'll never happen, me and my widfe have both been there. They just want you out of the way as quickly as possible.
3) and probably the best laugh here is the comment about the irreversable damage done to his family. Let me fill you in, his children go to private elementary school. I have to tell mine that he either has to drop of of college for a year or get a full time job to pay for it because the Cantu's have stolen his college money.
4) I don't think John and Marissa have any clue what the term ASAP means. These debts have been over due for months. I mean what was promised as a six week investment has not been paid in over 16 weeks. Oh, he was off the mark by just a little bit there.
5) This simply shows that lack of compassion that John and Marissa have for the people they steal from. They are only worried about the accusations leveled against them and have no concerns about the hardships that they have created for others.
Other Tidbit's about the Canuu's past
John was working for a mortgage company based out of Santa Ana that was sanctioned by the State of California for illegal activities. I'll post the site later but the few comments have Cantu written all over it.
The brokers at the firm were taking money from people to supposedly help them with loan modifications and then not contacting the lenders or the homeowners and letting the property fall into foreclosure, very nice. These people are the lowest form of criminals around.
There were other brokers and the owner of this business sanctioned by the State, some of which may still be doing business with John and Marissa. If you would like the State documents detailing the sanctions and people involved I can forward them to you at your request as well as the website information or the mortgage company.
The brokers at the firm were taking money from people to supposedly help them with loan modifications and then not contacting the lenders or the homeowners and letting the property fall into foreclosure, very nice. These people are the lowest form of criminals around.
There were other brokers and the owner of this business sanctioned by the State, some of which may still be doing business with John and Marissa. If you would like the State documents detailing the sanctions and people involved I can forward them to you at your request as well as the website information or the mortgage company.
Orange Police Deparetment Update
I'll be checking back with the Orange Police Department this week regarding the case progress. I still find it very disturbing that they have not yet elevated this case to a higher level. The total number of victims and dollars lost to date warrant a quicker action against John and Marissa Cantu to prevent losses to others.
According to John Cantu himself he has been operating out of San Diego, Ventura and San Bernardino Counties for the past several months.
According to John Cantu himself he has been operating out of San Diego, Ventura and San Bernardino Counties for the past several months.
District Attorney Action
If any of you have been following the Orange County District Attourney's actions against the couple (husband and wife) in the South County take heart. This couple were both found guilty of the same type of fraud John and Marissa are conducting. Funny but reading the article it sounded like this guy could have been John Cantu himself, apologizing for the mistake, saying he never intended to take the money and he asked the court for lieniency for the sake of his children.
I don't think the judge was buying any of it with the over 40 families that gave victim impact statements detailing the financial hardships, lost retirements and broken families this couple caused. Stay tuned the sentenacing is scheduled for January. We are trying to set up a meeting with the same representative of the DA's office that prosecuted this casue to take up the John and Marissa Cantu case with the same results expected.
Other avenues that are currently being persued are an intervivew with the Securities and Excange Commission (SEC) regarding the investment side of the scam and the FBI. The FBI, Treasury Department and the SEC have just created a task force specifically to deal with Mortgage related scams like the one being conducted by the Cantu's.
I don't think the judge was buying any of it with the over 40 families that gave victim impact statements detailing the financial hardships, lost retirements and broken families this couple caused. Stay tuned the sentenacing is scheduled for January. We are trying to set up a meeting with the same representative of the DA's office that prosecuted this casue to take up the John and Marissa Cantu case with the same results expected.
Other avenues that are currently being persued are an intervivew with the Securities and Excange Commission (SEC) regarding the investment side of the scam and the FBI. The FBI, Treasury Department and the SEC have just created a task force specifically to deal with Mortgage related scams like the one being conducted by the Cantu's.
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